[amsat-bb] Re: More Whining

[alf sauve <alf.sauve@xxxxxxxx>]

I've listened to many of the UO-14 passes and I think some people are
delusional when the claim they had a qso.  At least I think they're
"hearing" things.  (pun intended).  From my listening I think there must be
contest to see how many passes a station can work.   Anytime I hear a
station talk to another and use the word "again" I just turn off rig.

For field day, I think the first contact through UO-14 (or any other single
channel FM bird)  would count as 100 points.  Then it's a MINUS 1,000 points
every time your call sign is heard after that.

Alf - W4ADS


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Morris" <denmorr@bellsouth.net>
To: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
Cc: <kk5yy@arrl.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 8:12 AM
Subject: Fw: Stop Your Whining Already! Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite FIeld Day!


> I share KK5YY's sentiments - several groups - 2 in particular, including a
> group using the call of an AMSAT officer - assembled mega-stations for
Field
> Day with hundreds of watts and huge antennas. They then dominated UO-14
and
> AO-27 every pass, preventing many groups (including mine) from making any
> contacts.  I thought the intent of the satellite bonus was to encourage
> satellite exposure, not to pile up points.
>
> Until the rules are changed, my group is planning a mega-station for next
> year - guess we'll just add to the problem.
>
> I would suggest to ARRL changing the rules - perhaps a power limit and
only
> one contact on each FM bird for points.
>
> 73,
> Dennis C. Morris
> WA4ZJJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gerald Schmitt <kk5yy@arrl.net>
> To: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 9:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Stop Your Whining Already! Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite FIeld
Day!
>
>
> >
> > A simpler proposal for LEO FM satellites 5 watts 3 elements
> > no discussion. Major satellite stations are usually fixed which
> > is not the point on Field Day. The point is; Vince and John,
> > to use inprovised communications in a "Field" location to
> > demonstrate emergency readiness. Perhaps that's why
> > class "D" stations cannot contact each other
> >
> > I have access to 1500+ watts and if I ask real nice perhaps a
> > 50 meter dish, shall I use that and dominate the FM birds.
> >
> > I heard several stations who should definitely know better
> > dominating both J-FM birds with a large excess of power.
> >
> > Part of the point of Field Day is to acquaint new hams and not
> > yet hams with operating and the fraternity of amateur radio.
> > One high power station dominating these birds is the moral
> > equivalent of jamming during contests nice example guys.
> >
> > Last but not least when you use several hundred watts into
> > a 20 element beam to a satellite that can be worked with less
> > than half a watt is that using just the power needed to make the
> > contact? Everybody else is doing it is not the correct answer,
> > everybody else ought to know and do better.
> >
> > I feel better now.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:14:29 EDT, you wrote:
> >
> > >In a message dated 06/26/2000 9:18:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > >vlfiscus@mcn.net writes:
> > >
> > ><<     If you really want to make satellite contacts, then you need to
> set up
> > > an Oscar station. It's as simple that. So stop Whining that you
couldn't
> > > make any contacts. >>
> > >
> > >IMHO the rules should be changed....
> > >
> > >The first day of Field Day should allow 50 Pts for each initial contact
> on a
> > >different satellite...every contact after that on an already worked sat
> > >should be MINUS 5 Pts.
> > >
> > >After Midnight you could cut everyone loose and have the "enjoyable" DX
> > >pileup....
> > >
> > >Might solve some of the problems...
> > >
> > >IMHO (Yea Right...when did I Ever have a HO?)
> > >
> > >Best
> > >
> > >Roger
> > >WA1KAT
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