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Re: Autoexec

What prompted this bit of MS "retoric"?

I am sorry, It is true that there are allot of people calling themselves
programmers in the MS arena. It does hold the most customers.

But the easiest tools I have seen to program with came from Borland.

The easiest to apps to maintain in my base are the Unix and Linux Apps,
followed by DOS. This is very important to me. 180 clients on Unix like
platforms and a call will come in once every 6 months to 5 years. 5 Windows
clients, NT and 95, each seem to call in once every 2 weeks to 2 months.
That plain stinks. The OS plain stinks, dll's, ocx's, vbx's, COM, bandaid
after bandaid which break the previous bandaid. Its OK, just Reboot! I have
to put signs on our servers "Do NOT Reboot!" because of this MS mentality.

What kills me is there are twits in the Linux camp that are introducing the
same bag of problems into the OS. Version specific POSIX calls? Give me a
break. I like Mandrake because it is easy to install, but someone has got
to choke those supposed developers.

I could care less which OS I develop for, just make it a stable, extensible
one, from a company not looking for a dime at every corner. (SCO and Sun
are really guilty of the last point)


Christopher Cox 

 > From: Mark West <MarkW@instantdocuments.com>
 > To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
 > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Autoexec
 > Date: Monday, June 19, 2000 1:34 PM
 > After all the phiosophy and retoric, one fact stands clear.
 > Professional programmers (those whose livlihood depends on
 > it) generally prefer Windows over other systems. There are
 > many reasons for this, not the least of which are a large
 > customer base to sell to, and very very good development
 > tools. Linux blah blah blah, Mac blah blah blah, yeah
 > sure, it really does not matter. To those in the scolastic
 > environment, Linux may seem to be the center of the world,
 > but when you enter the commercial sector (where the money is)
 > you will find that developing freeware, no matter how fun it
 > is, does not feed the bulldog. Who cares what mogul out there
 > is making money, as long you you get some (or a lot) for yourself.
 > - Mark West
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Bronson [mailto:bronson@eece.maine.edu]
 > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 8:20 AM
 > To: Amsat BB
 > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Autoexec
 > Clifford Buttschardt wrote:
 >   > Another example of Bilk Gates wet dreams!  God, do we HAVE to put up
 >   > such stupidity!   Cliff K7RR
 > NO! ... and again I say NOOO!
 > There are at least two other modern choices out there.  I have worked in
 > three.  The other two would be UNIX/LINUX and MAC.  To those who care I
 > apologize
 > for lumping LINUX and UNIX together.
 > I began my computing in grade school - in the 70's - with teletypes,
 > tape
 > and BASIC.  I don't remember what the machine was, maybe some version of
 > PDP
 > series???  It was a long time ago and I was too young to care or sort out
 > what
 > was software and what was hardware.  In the early 80's I used the first
 > based
 > word processors in college.  In the mid 80's I switched to the MAC. 
 > at
 > the time was a gleam in brother Bill Gate's eye.  I became aware of
 > after
 > I bought my first MAC plus.  At the time Windows was a disaster.  But
 > marketing folks have always been good at making silk purses out of sows
 > ears.
 > ... time passed....
 > I graduated and got my first job...  then my second.  Windows NT was
 > released and
 > since the guy in my office was a Windows programer extrodinare,  and NT
 > looked
 > like it was the real deal, I switched.
 > O.K. ...  I have done some dumb things before....  In retrospect leaving
 > MAC
 > family ranks high on the list.  After several years (most of the 90's)
 > the
 > Windows yoke - in most of its forms 3.1, NT, 95, 98 - I have returned to
 > MAC
 > family with the G3 series.  Apple has made some questionable business
 > decisions
 > and some questionable computers along the way.  But Steve Jobs has a
 > of
 > computing that I can agree with.
 > Bill Gates is a liar and a cheat.  He makes very misleading statements
 > claims
 > about his Operating Systems and his company.  He extorts his vendors and
 > engages
 > in unfare business practices on the level of the old Standard Oil
 > I will do everything I can to avoid Windows in any of its forms.  There
 > no
 > truth in advertising.
 > To be sure none of the OS choices is the be all/end all.  But I can't
 > my
 > hard earned money to a company that does what Microsoft does and for what
 > reason???
 > My dirty secret is that I run a program called Virtual PC on my MAC G3. 
 > allows me to run Windows 98 on my G3.  I do this because the E CAD
 > package I use and Amature Radio Designer, do not have a MAC version.
 > On my MAC - for satelite opps and more -  I use MacDoppler Pro 1.5.1,
 > MacPacSat,
 > MultiMode, MiniNec (for MAC) and AudioCorder.  My thanks to those who
 > these
 > apps some of which I have registered and others I intend to register.
 > I encorage one and all to find an alternative to Microsoft any way you
 > There are some choices out there!  Learn about them and don't shy away
 > what
 > may seem like a more complicated solution.  There are lots of folks out
 > there who
 > can help you get going.  Microsoft wants nothing less than complete
 > of
 > your information needs and they are going to get it unless we... the
 > guys
 > by the thousands... stop them.
 > --
 > /***************************************
 > Bronson Crothers
 > 5764 Saw. Res. Center
 > University of Maine
 > Orono  ME  04469-5764
 > Phone: 207 581 2252
 > Fax:.....207 581 2255
 > N1ZAQ
 > -... ...-
 > Email: bronson@eece.maine.edu
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