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Re: Misuse of the satellite bands

Hello Sangat and Chritoffersen

- Hi and I must say excellent report from Ib.
- Our situation is not much better, in the sat band in VHF you find spurios
from overloaded / mistuned FM broadcast stations, a net of pirat stations
working in UHF
436.290 (SO35 up link), wich can be outruled with the beam antenna, and
local police
working a repeater in 144.590, and many other wich I do not remember at this
- The Brazilian Goverment Agency, ANATEL ruling the use of radio and
spectrum is to-
tally inactive in this matter, doing absolutely nothing due to unknown
reasons, they are
working only as tax collectors and you receive mail fron them only if you
did not payed
you license.
Regards and luck
Nicolau, PP8DA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Astronautic Technology" <tiung@po.jaring.my>
To: "Ib Christoffersen" <ilc@cph.ih.dk>; "'amsat-bb@amsat.org'"
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Misuse of the satellite bands

> OZ1MY/Ib  De 9M2SS
> Hi Chritoffersen,
> Many thanks for your observations and suggestions.  I am compiling them
> that may help me to have some sort of consensus about the problem.  Even
> ITU is aware of these problems but they can only suggest but cannot
> enforce.  It is up to the individual administrations to take notice and
> repair these problems.  it is again a question of self policing.  This
> involves proper band planning and to ensuring that we follow those
> Thanks once again for your input.  They have started to trickle in. May I
> request others to please respond and give their views.
> 73
> Sangat, 9M2SS
> At 10:02 13/06/00 +0200, Ib Christoffersen wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Sangat, 9M2SS, ask about a monitoring service for satellites. I had
> written this before
> >I saw that message - but here is a little about what I have heard over
> >last couple of weeks.
> >
> >It has been a pleasure to use the FM satellites over the last
> >many years with many new stations active.
> >
> >AO-21 was a very usefull bird in the "good old days".
> >
> >Now we have the use of AO-27, UO-14 and SO-35, which all are
> >working very well.
> >
> >Personally I have worked 81 new stations on UO-14 since it was switched
> >the service as a FM repeater. This shows that FM birds are just as good
> >to attract new operators to the satellite service as the mode-A birds.
> >I would like to thank the people who made this possible.
> >
> >There are a few problems here in Europe. If we can solve those, it will
> much
> >easier for new, perhaps QRP stations, to become active on the birds.
> >
> >On AO-27 I have recorded packet stations from the Ukraine using the
> >frequency (145.850 MHz). Here is one example:
> >
> >US5WE-2>UT1WPR-8 <RR R R3>
> >US5WE-2>UT1WPR-8 <RR C P R4>
> >US5WE-2>IPLVV <RR C P R5>
> >US5WE-2>UT1WPR-2 <RR C P R3>
> >US5WE-2>UT1WPR-8 <I C S5 R4>:
> >
> >On UO-14 I have recorded APRS transmissions from France:
> >
> >=4243.42N/00251.42E-POSITION APRS {UIV32}
> >=4243.42N/00251.42E-POSITION APRS {UIV32}
> >=4240.00N/00253.00E-PERPINYA- JN12KQ {UIV22}
> >
> >The common thing for these type of transmissions are that they do not
> >listen before they transmit.
> >
> >These two examples are not the worst. It has been common knowledge for
> >years that the satellite segment on 2 meters is used widely in Spain for
> >services it is not intended for. Our fellow radio amateurs in Spain have
> >a task to perform in this respect.
> >Especially AO-27 is jammed by this trafic very often.
> >
> >In Russia the conditions are just as bad. Not only is the 2 meter
> >segment used for telephone trafic - but in some cases also used by
> >stations. This is mostly on UO-14.
> >
> >Some countries in the Middle East also use our frequencies for both
> >telephone trafic and broadcast.
> >
> >The last three examples are in violation with the international rules.
> >
> >To add to the problems radioamateurs in Denmark (that has been delt
> >UK, the Netherlands, Germany and Italy can be heard on the satellites.
> >I would very much like the national societies to adress these problems.
> >
> >A third type of problem is that some high power stations try to
> the
> >FM satellites.
> >If everybody tried to work one or two stations only on each pass, it
> be
> >much better.
> >
> >I have no intention to be a policeman on the satellites - but I would
> >to see the satellites used to forward our hobby in a positive way.
> >Please receive this message in the way intended and do something about
> >if you are in a position to do so.
> >
> >73 de OZ1MY/Ib
> >
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> >
> Sangat Singh, 9M2SS
> Director IARU Region 3
> 111, Jln. Terasek Lapan
> Bangsar Baru
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