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RE: Geostationary Satellites?

I'm using HF these days primarily as a means to keep in contact with my
sister in law who is a doctor in Malawi. Her village has no telephones. Her
hospital has a solar powered mobile hf rig and a tower with a tri-bander on
it. The gear was all donated. They use 40m to communicate with people in the
capitol city. They also use 10m and 15m to communicate with me and a doctor
here in the us to coordinated medical supplies and to keep in contact with
families. So for now, hf is still their lifeline to the states. Someday
they'll get better equipment for sure (like a phone line and internet), but
for now they take hf very seriously.


	From:  Clinton Herbert [SMTP:clinton@verdenet.com]
	Sent:  Sunday, February 20, 2000 3:46 PM
	To:  Jon Ogden
	Cc:  Frank Grossman; Dan Schultz; AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org
	Subject:  Re: [amsat-bb] Geostationary Satellites?

	Jon Ogden wrote:

	> on 2/20/00 12:19 AM, Frank Grossman at 71042.1303@compuserve.com
	> > Somebody in this discussion commented that a network of geosync
	> > transponders would make HF obsolete.  Isn't that the point?  HF
	> > obsolete.

	 HF is not obsolete, nor will it ever be. Just like people say that
the digital
	modes are the way of the future, well that's just not the case. Read
on a little
	be and become "enlightened"...

	> As the person who said that let me tell you something:  HF is NOT
	> in any way, shape or form.  IMHO, anyone who thinks that has no
clue of what
	> HF operating is all about.  The remark was made somewhat tounge in
	> HF is there because of the challenge.  And your comments about
needing large
	> antennas and lots of power is not accurate either.  Thousands of
	> operate QRP all the time with 5 watts or less and talk all over
the world.
	> When conditions are good, you don't need much power.  And if you
call 100
	> watts that most rigs put out "a lot of power" how many 100 watt
light bulbs
	> do you use in your house?  HF may be obsolete or nearly so for
	> use.  But take a listen.  The aircraft industry still uses it.
There is
	> still commercial radio telegraph.  When I was in South America,
there were a
	> TON of commercial outfits using frequencies right around 40 meters
	> commercial traffic.  The US is a special case in the world.  Many
	> countries cannot afford the higher cost of satellite networks.

	 This was something that I started thinking about too, right after I
read that
	post. I mean, there are so many third world countries where even a
new HF rig is
	out of the question, as it costs too much. Does everyone really
think that all
	Amateurs can afford the latest gear? I mean, yes, in the US most of
us can. I
	just spent over $2,500.00 last week alone. Just on "stuff" for
Amateur Radio. Do
	you know how much money that would be in say Zimbabwe? Or should I
say how long
	that it would take you to earn that much... But in many countries,
an old
	(possibly QRP), CW rig is all some have. How many can buy a new
satellite rig?
	How about the space communication antennas? Or the rotator? Oh,
let's not forget
	the computer with tracking and logging programs... How many rare
countries use
	the satellites now? Or the digital modes? They can't afford
computers. Besides,
	you can't hook up a computer to a battery, at least not without a
	which are not cheap either.

	 Another thing, sure the satellites will add up your country count
quick, but
	for the rare third world countries, for the reasons stated above, if
you want
	them, you'll have to work them on HF. So it'll never be "obsolete".
If it was,
	the military and many commercial institutions would be using
	exclusively. Sure, I agree that space communications are the way of
the future,
	for a lot if not most of Amateur Radio's contacts, whenever
	satellites become commonplace. But HF will always be needed to snag
a rare one,
	maybe an A5 or so...

	> So, HF is NOT obsolete in any way, shape or form.

	 And it NEVER will be Jon!

	> 73,
	> Jon
	> KE9NA
	> -------------------------------------
	> Jon Ogden
	> KE9NA
	> Member:  ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA
	> http://www.qsl.net/ke9na
	> "A life lived in fear is a life half lived."

	 73, Clinton Herbert AB7RG

	 "We do these things not because they are easy, but because they are
hard." --
	John F. Kennedy

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