[amsat-bb] RE: [FlexNet] RE:FlexNet for 9600 packet satellites?

["Papson, John" <papson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Answer is NO !

PB and PG use KISS to link "satellite" program running in PC to TNC.

PC FlexNet is a "network protocol" program running in a PC.

FlexNet has it's own drivers to communicate to TNC's (6PACK) to other
computers (KISS) and to sound cards used as modems.

I should highlight that FlexNet's "KISS.EXE" is a partial implementation of
the normal KISS, intended solely to communicate computer to computer. (i.e.
PC to PC or PC to RMNC )

Hence, FlexNet, if it even would understand "KISS" data from PB and PG,
would attempt to wrap it in "FlexNet Protocol" before sending it on to the
sound card !

What your looking for is a sound card modem that has a standard KISS
interface, in order to emulate a TNC in KISS mode.  I don't think that
exists today.

I'd suggest looking at the YAM modem, which is a small (DB-25 connector
shell size) complete TNC.
It's built out of a FPGA (field programmable gate array) that gets
programmed at startup by a batch file in the PC, and then emulates a
complete TNC thereafter.. 

I don't know if it will do standard KISS, but it may...

It does support both 1k2 AFSK and 9k6 FSK modes !!

73   John WB2CIK
 > ----------
 > From: 	Christopher Maness[SMTP:kq6up@hotmail.com]
 > Sent: 	Friday, October 15, 1999 12:42 PM
 > To: 	Papson, John
 > Cc: 	amsat-bb@amsat.org; flexnet@qth.net
 > Subject: 	[FlexNet] RE:FlexNet for 9600 packet satellites?
 > 
 > PB & PG are pacsat protocol programs.  The pacsats require special
 > terminal 
 > software (PB & PG for dos and WiSP for win.)  I don't know if the kiss 
 > driver will work for sound card packet.  That is what we were inquiring 
 > about.
 > 
 > 
 > >From: "Papson, John" <papson@hazeltine.com>
 > >To: "'Christopher Maness'" <kq6up@hotmail.com>,        "'KB8QIR@aol.com'"
 > 
 > ><KB8QIR@aol.com>
 > >Subject: RE: [FlexNet] Re: [amsat-bb] FlexNet for 9600 packet satellites?
 > >Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:23:11 -0400
 > >
 > >Chris, Jacob:
 > >
 > >What is PB & PG ??
 > >If these programs can run on top of G8BPQ, then they will run on top of
 > >FlexNet using the TFEMU driver.
 > >While it is not 100% correct, FlexNet KISS driver will "sort of" work
 > >driving a TNC in KISS mode.
 > >But it works much better with proper driver, such as 6PACK !
 > >
 > >73  John WB2CIK
 > > > ----------
 > > > From: 	Christopher Maness[SMTP:kq6up@hotmail.com]
 > > > Sent: 	Friday, October 15, 1999 12:15 AM
 > > > To: 	KB8QIR@aol.com
 > > > Cc: 	amsat-bb@amsat.org; ke6rut@juno.com; k6lg@juno.com;
 > > > amanduh_qt@email.msn.com; flexnet@qth.net; w6rpd@unilat.com;
 > > > mikeke6alv@yahoo.com; sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch
 > > > Subject: 	[FlexNet] Re: [amsat-bb] FlexNet for 9600 packet satellites?
 > > >
 > > > If I am not mistaken it is flexnet is not yet able to opperate in kiss
 > > > mode
 > > > to the xcvr.  It is only capable of kiss to another computor.  The PB
 > & 
 > >PG
 > > >
 > > > need to run in duplex kiss mode to the TNC.
 > > >
 > > > "ARNING: KISS.EXE should only be used to attach another computer. It
 > is
 > > > not
 > > > able to drive a KISS TNC. Parameters such as TxDelay and full/half 
 > >duplex
 > > > are not forwarded. The only use of this driver is PC to PC or PC to
 > RMNC
 > > > coupling."
 > > >
 > > > Flexnet has a module called tfemu that is supposed to emulate a WA8DED
 > > > firmware TNC.  I don't know if it will work with PB & PG or even wisp 
 > >wich
 > > >
 > > > utilize the special pacsat protocol.
 > > >
 > > > I have heard that that soundblaster pacsat operation is supported in
 > > > LINUX.
 > > >
 > > > These are my present thoughts on the matter, and all coments and
 > > > corrections
 > > > are welcome because I would like to see this accomplished in DOS or
 > > > Windows.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > >From: KB8QIR@aol.com
 > > > >To: amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org
 > > > >Subject: [amsat-bb] FlexNet for 9600 packet satellites?
 > > > >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:05:25 EDT
 > > > >
 > > > >Hey,
 > > > >
 > > > >Is anyone using the FlexNet software to operate the packet satellites
 > > > thru
 > > > >a
 > > > >sound card. If so, give me a shout directly as I am trying to get it
 > > > setup
 > > > >and ould use any advise available.
 > > > >
 > > > >73's Jacob Tennant,KB8QIR
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