[amsat-bb] 100 years of Great Women.

["Michael P. Olbrisch" <kd9kc@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey there,

	Don't know how much truth is in this, but I trust Dale
so I expect much or all of this is true.  I was too young for
Viet Nam, but Dale was there, and is still paying for it.

Y-all have a great day.



Vy73,  Mike.   KD9KC    MARS: AAV6EV
kd9kc@elp.rr.com  -  kd9kc@amsat.org
Home page: http://www.qsl.net/kd9kc/
The farthest WEST ham in West Texas.
 
An armed society is a polite society.

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Hanoi Jane, American Traitor Bitch.

Dale N. Richardson, AA5XE
aa5xe@ktc.com

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Subject: "100 Years of Great Women" /  Hanoi Jane
Date: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 9:00 AM
 
(To include Jane Fonda in "100 Years of Great Women" 
prompted the following)
 
 
Lest we forget ... "100 years of great women" -- Jane Fonda 
should never be considered.    The first part of this is from an 
F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.

Folks,

There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but 
Jane Fonda's participation in what I believe to be blatant treason, 
is one of them.  Part of my conviction comes from exposure to 
those who suffered her attentions.

In 1978, the Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a 
former POW in Ho Lo Prison -- the "Hanoi Hilton."   Dragged from 
a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean 
PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace 
Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.   

He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.  During 
the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp 
Commandant's feet, accidentally pulling the man's shoe off -- 
which sent that officer berserk.   In '78, the AF Colonel still 
suffered from double vision -- permanently grounding him -- 
from the Vietnamese Colonel's frenzied application of his wooden 
baton.

>From 1983-85, Col Larry Carrigan was the 347th FW/DO (F-4Es).  
He'd spent 6  years in the "Hilton" -- the first three of which he 
was "missing in action".  His wife lived on faith that he was still 
alive.   His group, too, got the cleaned /fed /clothed routine in 
preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.  They, however, had 
time and devised a plan to get word  to the world that they still 
survived.   Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN 
on it, in the palm of his hand.   When paraded before Ms. Fonda 
and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand 
and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you  sorry you 
bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment 
from your benevolent captors?"

Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver 
of paper.   She took them all without missing a beat.  At the end 
of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked 
disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge ... and 
handed him the little pile.

Three men died from the subsequent beatings.  Colonel Carrigan 
was almost number four. 

For years after their release, a group of determined former POWs,
including Col. Carrigan, tried to bring Ms. Fonda and others up on 
charges of treason.   I don't know that they used it, but the charge 
of  "Negligent Homicide due to Depraved Indifference" would also 
seem appropriate.   Her obvious "granting of aid and comfort to 
the enemy," alone, should've been sufficient for the treason count.

However, to date, Jane Fonda has never been formally charged with 
anything and continues to enjoy the privileged life of the rich and 
famous.

I, personally, think that this is shame on us, the American Citizenry.
Part of our shortfall is ignorance: most don't know such actions ever
took place.  Thought you might appreciate the knowledge.  Most of 
you've probably already seen this by now ...  only addition I might 
add to these sentiments is to remember the satisfaction of  relieving 
myself into the urinal at some air base or another where  "zaps" of 
Hanoi Jane's @#&#$% face had been applied.

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To whom it may concern:

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Viet Nam, and was
captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Viet Nam in 
1968, and held for over 5 years.   I spent 27 months in solitary 
confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a 
"black box" in Hanoi.

My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a 
female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South 
Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.  

At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs.  (My normal weight 
is 170 lbs). 

We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."   When Jane Fonda was in 
Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I 
would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda.  I said yes, for I would 
like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, 
which was far different from the treatment purported by the North 
Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient."  

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees 
with outstretched arms with a piece of steel rebar placed on my
hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped. 

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours
after I was released.   I asked her if she would be willing to debate 
me on TV.  She did not answer me.   Her husband, Tom Hayden, 
answered for her.   She was mind controlled by her husband.  This 
does not exemplify someone who should be honored as "100 Years 
of Great Women."

After I was released, I was asked what I thought of Jane Fonda 
and the anti-war movement.  I said that I held Joan Baez's husband 
in very high regard, for he thought the war was wrong, burned his 
draft card and went to prison in protest.  If the other anti-war 
protesters took this same route, it would have brought our judicial 
system to a halt and ended the war much earlier, and there wouldn't 
be as many on that somber black granite wall called the Vietnam 
Memorial.  This is democracy.   This is the American way.

Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose to be a traitor, and went to
Hanoi, wore their uniform, propagandized for the communists, and 
urged American soldiers to desert.   As we were being tortured, 
and some of the POWs murdered, she called us liars.   After her 
heros -- the North Vietnamese communists -- took over South 
Vietnam, they systematically murdered 80,000 South Vietnamese 
political prisoners.  May their souls rest on her head forever.     

Shame!    Shame!

History is a heavy sword in the hands of those who refuse to forget
it.  Think of this the next time you see Ms. Fonda-Turner at  a 
Braves game.

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